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 PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

RespectMyAuthority wrote:
-- if Matt Forte was skilled enough to be a feature back in the NFL, he would've a) gone to a better football college and b) been drafted higher.



Position taken in the draft and the college someone played at have no relationship to how someone does in the NFL, as shown by the number of undrafted free agents and small school players who go on to notable careers, and the big school top draft choices who go bust. The later remarks about the Bears poor O-line, passing game and defense are all valid though.
 
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 PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

shafferbctd wrote:
RespectMyAuthority wrote:
-- if Matt Forte was skilled enough to be a feature back in the NFL, he would've a) gone to a better football college and b) been drafted higher.



Position taken in the draft and the college someone played at have no relationship to how someone does in the NFL, as shown by the number of undrafted free agents and small school players who go on to notable careers, and the big school top draft choices who go bust. The later remarks about the Bears poor O-line, passing game and defense are all valid though.


Look no further than Mississippi Valley State where Jerry Rice attended.
 
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 PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Cranky Canuck wrote:
shafferbctd wrote:
RespectMyAuthority wrote:
-- if Matt Forte was skilled enough to be a feature back in the NFL, he would've a) gone to a better football college and b) been drafted higher.



Position taken in the draft and the college someone played at have no relationship to how someone does in the NFL, as shown by the number of undrafted free agents and small school players who go on to notable careers, and the big school top draft choices who go bust. The later remarks about the Bears poor O-line, passing game and defense are all valid though.


Look no further than Mississippi Valley State where Jerry Rice attended.


And you also have Westbrook at Villanova. TO at some beatnick college, and Big Ben out of the MAC. The reason those players are taken lower is because most teams dont want the risk of looking like an idiot vs. a genius.
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 PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

A small school is not a good point to use in a debate about a player and their potential in the NFL. There is always going to be major successes out of small schools and failures out of big time colleges. We can all easily name examples of these players without doing any research. Or we should be able to. :-)
 
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 PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

hessshaun wrote:
Cranky Canuck wrote:
shafferbctd wrote:
RespectMyAuthority wrote:
-- if Matt Forte was skilled enough to be a feature back in the NFL, he would've a) gone to a better football college and b) been drafted higher.



Position taken in the draft and the college someone played at have no relationship to how someone does in the NFL, as shown by the number of undrafted free agents and small school players who go on to notable careers, and the big school top draft choices who go bust. The later remarks about the Bears poor O-line, passing game and defense are all valid though.


Look no further than Mississippi Valley State where Jerry Rice attended.


And you also have Westbrook at Villanova. TO at some beatnick college, and Big Ben out of the MAC. The reason those players are taken lower is because most teams dont want the risk of looking like an idiot vs. a genius.

Sorry to pile on -- Walter Payton at Jackson State.
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 PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

You could also count on Nebraska O-Lineman for years to be a bust in the NFL as well, just to counter the small school successes.There was a major scholl with a weakness.BTW i'm going back to the old Tom Osborne led Husker teams for that.
 
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 PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

The Lions and Bengals are talking trade. The two rumored trades are Rudi Johnson and 2 draft choices for Roy Williams. and Rudi Johnson for Mike Furrey and a pick.
 
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 PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

If they can score Roy Williams without giving up a 1st rounder that would be money for the Bengals. Although he'll probably get arrested 7 days after he arrives in Cincy because he was hanging out with Chris Henry.

I'm sure Roy would love it. Moving from Jon Kitna to Carson Palmer is a career changer.
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 PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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The Kansas City Star has confirmed that the Chiefs are talking to other teams about a possible Tony Gonzalez trade.
 
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 PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

""ESPN's John Clayton reports Daunte Culpepper and the Lions have entered contract negotiations.""
 
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 PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

darko wrote:
""ESPN's John Clayton reports Daunte Culpepper and the Lions have entered contract negotiations.""


That should turn their season right around....
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 PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

EvilEmpire wrote:
darko wrote:
""ESPN's John Clayton reports Daunte Culpepper and the Lions have entered contract negotiations.""


That should turn their season right around....



Yup. Orlovsky is a stud and all and a future MVP candidate but you can't pass on the opportunity to land a QB of Culpepper's caliber.
 
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 PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

darko wrote:
EvilEmpire wrote:
darko wrote:
""ESPN's John Clayton reports Daunte Culpepper and the Lions have entered contract negotiations.""


That should turn their season right around....



Yup. Orlovsky is a stud and all and a future MVP candidate but you can't pass on the opportunity to land a QB of Culpepper's caliber.


i know some teams are desperate...but who gives Culpepper the right to

1) ask for a multi year contract
2) spurn any other team that may have interest in you to go for the Lions? lol
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 PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

What I would like to know is why Stanton hasn't had a chance. Dude has a big arm and he's pretty smart too. Did his chances of getting a chance to run that offense die when Martz left?
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 PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

darko wrote:
EvilEmpire wrote:
darko wrote:
""ESPN's John Clayton reports Daunte Culpepper and the Lions have entered contract negotiations.""


That should turn their season right around....



Yup. Orlovsky is a stud and all and a future MVP candidate but you can't pass on the opportunity to land a QB of Culpepper's caliber.


Dont hate because the Pride of UConn is clearly better then any Australian football player ever
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