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Fantasy Sports Neighborhood
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Welcome to THE UPPER MANAGEMENT. Fantasy Sports Neighborhood.
You are currently viewing the UM as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features.
The UM opened August 17th, 2007 as a handpicked 100 members who were asked to join for their smarts and community involvement. But the word got out that the UM neighborhood is not just your average start up community! .... Members begun jumping in from word of mouth .. and now the UM stands at 300+ members and over 30,000 posts and growing!
The site has it's very own Texas Holdem table which has members playing against each other 24/7! .. MLB Gameday audio only for the community. A live chat room, fantasy leagues with the winner landing up to 100 dollars in prizes. We also have our own FREE Baseball draft kit for our UM members, as well as an upcomming Football draft kit. We run our own monthly MILB prospect list. But most importantly .. The UM has grown into a community of sports friends. So jump in and, join the UM today! |
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youngbuck8100
Joined: 19 Sep 2007
Posts: 3116
Location: Brookline, MA
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I noticed that you said that this site doesnt pay for itself. I notice that alot of message boards have advertising. Maybe you could sell ad space to compainies. Put links to their sites in the left margins or something like that. I just figured that I would suggest this.
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BNole
Joined: 18 Sep 2007
Posts: 1148
Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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advertising = teh gay
However, that being said, I've re-thought this whole "ad page" idea. I heard on another website that they make approximately 25c everytime someone clicks the ads on their page (about 3). They had a little box on the side of every page with the ads and asked for people to click them. Well, if that is true (25c), i think it's a good idea. I'd try to click 3 ads everyday. So, 25c * 30 days = $7.50. Well, all we need is for a couple other people to do the same... Thoughts?
Also, on another note, I don't like the ads placed on every page as the mentioned site does. I'd prefer a hidden ads page...like "http://www.theuppermanagement.com/ads.html" or something.
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chichahaba
Joined: 20 Sep 2007
Posts: 504
Location: Chicago
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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advertising = teh gay
However, that being said, I've re-thought this whole "ad page" idea. I heard on another website that they make approximately 25c everytime someone clicks the ads on their page (about 3). They had a little box on the side of every page with the ads and asked for people to click them. Well, if that is true (25c), i think it's a good idea. I'd try to click 3 ads everyday. So, 25c * 30 days = $7.50. Well, all we need is for a couple other people to do the same... Thoughts?
Also, on another note, I don't like the ads placed on every page as the mentioned site does. I'd prefer a hidden ads page...like "http://www.theuppermanagement.com/ads.html" or something. |
I use Google ads on my website. I think they only pay for clicks, and it varies depending on the advertiser. When someone clicks and then proceeds to buy something you get more money. Those usually net $1 each or more.
As for users clicking ads just to generate revenue, Google does address that behavior as being against their terms of use. I don't know how they track something like that as being different than regular clicks, but I wouldn't put it past them that they record enough information to figure it out.
I haven't used any other advertising networks, so I can say whether the payout is potentially better or you can circumvent their fraud monitoring more or less easily.
Edit: Also, since this messageboard is hosted by a third party, I'd guess you either can't advertise or need to split the earnings somehow.
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Delbert6
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Posts: 1671
Location: Maine
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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Errr,,,
B and YB,,,this is a freeforums website,,,,IE,,a shared hosting forum,,,
Ads are disallowed without a hosting upgrade,,,
Also,,,,bear in mind, any promotion of clicks or repeated clicks from the same IP often result in termination of the ad, an affiliation, or discontinuation of programs such as Google adsense,,,
Them search robots are pesky, and can trace back just about every click on the net- (bots are auto programs that crawl websites for content and links)
A simple reference on any linked page asking or requesting, promoting clicks, visits, etc. are snooped out and it often results in discontinuation/cancellation,,,
If you get really bored, go to google adsense and read through the million and 1 ways adsense cuts you off at the knees,,,,,and the best part is, its usually after you start making money,,,,,
In short,,if a site like this is gonna go dot com and use adsense or other programs to fund some prize pools, there needs to be zero click promotion, zero ad content specific messages,,,etc. etc.
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What biz is referring to is the fact that the poker game used to have a built in ad feature to offset the cost of hosting the table,,,This was the poker table itself and not the uppermanagement.freeforums.org site,,
With this feature gone, and minimal participation overall, it only makes sense for him to pocket the 20 bucks for bigger and better things...
You may know all this anyway, but it might be helpful to someone nonetheless
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youngbuck8100
Joined: 19 Sep 2007
Posts: 3116
Location: Brookline, MA
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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Didnt know that you couldnt adveritse, thanks for letting me know. I just figured that ads would bring in cash, and figured I would throw that out there.
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quiksilver
Joined: 22 Sep 2007
Posts: 2165
Location: Californ-i-a
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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The Google Ads failed when there was a suspicious amount of clicks. They are bogus because they say they'll pay you, but they only really want to pay you in certain minimal circumstances. I have google ads on my sites -- and I know I don't really get many clicks, but I've made a whopping 18 cents off of my first 100 visitors. It's almost not worth displaying google ads everywhere cluttering the shit up.
I think the best way would be to strike up an agreement with a specific site. I've had people contact me saying they'll pay me $50 a year if I display their custom ad, etc.
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Bizplayboy
Website Admin
Joined: 16 Aug 2007
Posts: 5450
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the comments and feedback gentleman .... Delbert hit it on the head. The UM was using adsence ad's in the holdem table, The idea was the clicks from their would pay for the table. but with the demise of the adsence income .. the table did not pay for itself any longer... and It's just not a big enough feature right now to shell out the 250-300 dollars per year.
That being said, the commish and I are looking into ways to have the site generate income to allow those upgrades, application and prize packages we want to add as part of the UM experience. Once we figure that out, I will re-implament the Holdem table.
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Delbert6
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Posts: 1671
Location: Maine
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know what Biz has envisioned or anyone for that matter, as far as trying to take this group a notch higher,
Nonetheless, I tend to agree with you Quik,,,
Skip that garbage, nickel and dime stuff and work toward legitimate affiliations that benefit members of this site and those affiliated with,,,
(Ok,,a few random ads about Rose McGowan sex tapes might be ok)
Keep in the mind though, a continuation of quality content and active members just might result in people seeking out the mighty UM!
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Bizplayboy
Website Admin
Joined: 16 Aug 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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The nickel and dime stuff would serve it's purpose initialy .. IE upgrades/current applications. But yes, internaly the UM is working up some situations in terms of affilaitions .... But .. I don't want to rush that stuff. Slow and steady .... 
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chichahaba
Joined: 20 Sep 2007
Posts: 504
Location: Chicago
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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The Google Ads failed when there was a suspicious amount of clicks. They are bogus because they say they'll pay you, but they only really want to pay you in certain minimal circumstances. I have google ads on my sites -- and I know I don't really get many clicks, but I've made a whopping 18 cents off of my first 100 visitors. It's almost not worth displaying google ads everywhere cluttering the shit up.
I think the best way would be to strike up an agreement with a specific site. I've had people contact me saying they'll pay me $50 a year if I display their custom ad, etc. |
Yeah. I'm probably averaging ~75 cents for every 1000 page views. That's giving me anywhere from $20 - $40 a month, which isn't too shabby, but I could probably do better. I think some months are higher because they actually put nicer-looking ads or ads that are better targeted to my audience.
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BNole
Joined: 18 Sep 2007
Posts: 1148
Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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I understanstand that you can't advertise on this forum...however, BP could put up a webpage of ads on his server (as he had before). Like I said, I wouldn't want ads in the actual content. I hate the clutter.
I'm not sure how the other website is getting away with it. They've had the ads for years and even reminded recently that clicking all 3 ads net them 25c. I'm out of ideas...
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youngbuck8100
Joined: 19 Sep 2007
Posts: 3116
Location: Brookline, MA
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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What if we sold our signitures?
You can guarantee an advertiser that x amount of users will sport thier company logo, or advertisement as thier sig.
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